Comparing .45-70 vs .454 Casull: What's the Best Choice for Hunting?

Hunting with Firearms
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Introduction

I’m diving into a discussion that many of us who enjoy hunting can relate to: choosing the right cartridge for the job. Recently, I’ve been weighing the pros and cons of the .45-70 Government versus the .454 Casull. Both have their unique attributes, but I’d love to hear experiences and insights from fellow hunters.

Performance Characteristics

.45-70 Government

  • Ballistics: The .45-70 is known for its significant stopping power, especially at close to moderate ranges. It excels in dropping larger game, such as elk and bison, thanks to its heavier projectiles (300-500 grains) and relatively low velocity.
  • Recoil: The recoil can be challenging, especially with heavier loads, but many shooters enjoy that solid thump.
  • Applications: Commonly used in lever-action rifles, the .45-70 has a rich history in big game hunting and is often favored for its powerful performance against large animals.

.454 Casull

  • Ballistics: The .454 Casull offers impressive velocity and energy, thanks to being a higher-pressure cartridge. Typically, it fires lighter projectiles (250-360 grains), making it versatile across different types of game.
  • Recoil: Known for its fierce recoil, the .454 may take some getting used to, especially for those new to powerful handguns.
  • Applications: Its adaptability allows it to be used effectively in revolvers and some carbines, broadening its use in hunting smaller game and even as a backup in bear country.

Key Considerations

  • Hunting Scenario: What game are you targeting? If you’re after large game, the .45-70 might be the better choice, while if you need versatility, the .454 Casull could shine in different situations.
  • Firearms: Are you more inclined towards a lever-action rifle, or do you prefer a revolver setup? This could guide your decision as to which cartridge feels right.

Conclusion

Both cartridges have their merits, and the choice often boils down to personal preference and specific hunting needs. I’m eager to hear how others have fared with these rounds in the field. Have you had experiences with either, or even both? What insights can you share about their effectiveness in various scenarios? Let’s discuss!

Thanks for any input you can provide!

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I’m really interested in this topic too. The .45-70 Government has a long history and typically offers great stopping power, especially for larger game. Has anyone had experience with both cartridges?

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I hear you! The .454 Casull is a powerhouse for sure, but it’s more suited for close-range. The .45-70 is great for distance, especially in open terrains.

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For ballistics, the .45-70 is typically slower but carries a much heavier bullet, making it more effective at longer ranges. The .454 Casull is snappy and offers rapid follow-up shots. What do you all think about recoil?

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I find the recoil of the .45-70 is manageable with the right firearm. The .454 Casull, on the other hand, can be brutal. Did anyone find a comfortable way to shoot it?

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I’ve shot both, and I have to say, the .454 Casull feels more like a hand cannon! However, for big game like moose or elk, the .45-70 really shines.

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Exactly! The terminal performance of the .45-70 on larger animals is impressive. But for self-defense, a .454 could be quicker in a pinch.

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I’m leaning towards the .45-70 for hunting due to its effective range and accuracy in medium to long-distance shots. Thoughts on using it for bear hunting?

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Totally viable! The .45-70 is a fantastic option for bear. Just take into account the type of bullets you’re using for maximum effectiveness.

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I always thought the .454 was for more than just self-defense. Is it really that effective on game? I mean, it seems like overkill for smaller animals.

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You’re right, Daniel! While it is overkill for smaller game, the .454 Casull is effective at close ranges for larger critters. It all depends on the situation.

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I appreciate this conversation! It’s making me think about what I really want out of my hunting experience. Each cartridge has its perks depending on the game and conditions. Reflective choices matter.

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Absolutely! It’s important to match the cartridge to the hunt. For bears, .45-70 is typically favored, while .454 can excel in thick cover encounters.

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What about reloading? I feel like there’s more flexibility with .454 Casull in terms of bullet choices. Anyone reloaded for either?

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Good point, Emily! The .454 Casull definitely has more options for handloading. But I find that .45-70 offers some classics that are hard to beat too!

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I can’t help but think, if the .454 Casull has all this power, does it make it a poor choice for those new to hunting? Or could it actually work to their advantage with the right training?

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That’s an interesting thought! With great training, it can be effective, but the .45-70 might be more forgiving for beginners.

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In the end, it really comes down to your personal preference and hunting style. Choose what feels right to you! Let’s not forget to enjoy the moments in the field, no matter which cartridge we pick.

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I’m really excited to discuss this! The .45-70 is classic, often used in lever-action rifles, while the .454 Casull is popular in powerful revolvers. Both have their pros and cons depending on your hunting needs.

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Absolutely, and don’t forget about the wide variety of .45-70 rifles available! From Marlin to Henry, there’s plenty to choose from.