Training and CCW Questions For Ed Lowrey Questions


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QUESTION # 1

"Recently Kansas enacted a CCW Law.  The biggest problem seems to be the required training course.  Some want it to be the longest and hardest in the nation.  What does your group think on the training parameters for civilians and a CCW License?"                   Ronald Summers, Kansas

ED LOWREY ANSWER:

"A good question with many possible opinions.  Lets first compare the training requirements from several drastically different states.  Tennessee, Mississippi, Vermont, New Hampshire, and Nevada.

Tennessee requires a full day of training consisting of 4 hours of classroom, 4 hours of range time, a mandatory 1 hour + video produced by the state covering law, and a written and shooting exam.  These courses are taught by independent schools (or police agencies), that are inspected and certified by the state using instructors who must apply and be certified by the state.  A graduate of this course takes his or her earned certificate to a drivers license office, pays the state of Tennessee $115, and waits for up to 90 days for the license.

Mississippi requires its citizens to go to a local Highway Patrol Office and apply for their permit.  No training needed.  Mississippi trusts its citizens but verifies they have no criminal record or are forbidden by law to possess a firearm.

Nevada accepts a variety of courses including the very basic NRA Pistol Course, to get their permit.  No advance tactical or even CCW range training required.

Vermont allows a state resident to carry concealed without a license.

New Hampshire issues permits thru the mail, including a non-resident license. There is ample precedence for little or no training. 

How do I know all this?  I have a CCW from Tennessee, New Hampshire, Nevada, run a Handgun Permit School in Tennessee and, I often work in Mississippi, and everyone is aware of Vermont's Law.

I have no knowledge of any greater problems, accidents, or improper use of firearms, by legally armed citizens in those states with no or less training than Tennessee.

This can lead to a conclusion that training in not necessary.  Additionally, constitutionalists might argue that establishing a high level of training might exist to keep the average person from getting the CCW due to cost, time, ability, or intimidation.  Not much different from how minorities were kept from voting by use of pole taxes, literacy tests, etc., some decades back.  Constitutionalists believe the 2nd Amendment is all the permit needed to go armed.

Most states have in their State Constitution, wording that allows the state to regulate firearms for public safety.  One important point here is hat it needs to stay in state hands and kept away from the federal liberals. 

I personally believe that some level of training is a good thing because as an instructor and part time Deputy, I have seen an awful lot of stupid people doing really dumb things with a firearm, out of ignorance.  A state training program should educate citizens on their rights and responsibilities, and be done easily in one day without creating a program which serves to dissuade people from trying.

Many new or institutional instructors (as found in government agency programs), may try to teach everything they know or think they know, to a CCW candidate in one long hard course.  They fail to realize that although it might be nice if all permit holders were expert shooters, the best we can really hope for is that they are safe and knowledgeable.

Any course developed must be a compromise between the minimum knowledge and skill needed to carry safely in public, with the cost and time it will take to attend the training without discrimination against those without the money or time.

Think about who needs a CCW license or permit.  Is it the business man who travels thru down town and has ample money and time, or is it the elderly lady living alone in a older neighborhood on a fixed income who must walk to the local market or drive by herself at night.

You folks must help your Kansas law makers realize that whatever they come up with, it must be within reach of all law abiding citizens.  Watch our for HIDDEN CONTROL mechanisms that anti CCW folks might slip in.

Regardless of what program come of this, I highly recommend additional training on a regular basis to keep you knowledgeable, current, and alive in a gun fight.

"Remember, you don't know what you don't know until you learn it.".

Re Lowrey

Rattle Snake Ridge


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